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Offline BeauKim

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I've been curious about starting to use some extended diatonic models again mostly just to practice on since it also contains a lower octave than standard. It's a great way to keep the bending technique in shape for the extra low range. I never owned an extended Hohner. Maybe one day I will get one. I have a several Lucky 13's from about 6 years ago that I might dig out of my storage. They usually had some big inconsistencies in build that bothered me for my style of playing.

How about you?

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Re: Extended diatonic models. Who here uses them? (More than 10 holes)
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2023, 10:43:34 PM »
I am that man.
I have a surplus of 365 harps I have refurbished, but another dozen or so I have retuned to maaany different tunings.
I retuned a Lucky 13 to Fourkey, but it doesn’t fit in the RackIt!. So it hasn’t seen much use.
I am knee deep in programming a Headrush Looperboard, the RackIt! goes into that, along with a vocal mike and my guitar. Hey, maybe a demo . . . Oops, wrong thread.

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Re: Extended diatonic models. Who here uses them? (More than 10 holes)
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2023, 10:21:17 PM »
I bought an F and a Bb a while back and really don't like the bottom octave layout so much.
I much prefer the normal layout of the 365's or 364's

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Re: Extended diatonic models. Who here uses them? (More than 10 holes)
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2023, 02:54:13 AM »
I have a 12-hole solo system Hohner #364-S that I really
enjoy. It's sold only in the key of C, but Seydel and other
harp makers may sell it as a special order harp, in any key.

I have two Hohner #365 Marine Band extended range diatonics,
one in C and one in G. They are 14-hole  Richter system harps,
until holes 11-14.

Key of C harp
Large letters are exhale reeds; small letters are inhale:

||Cd |Eg |Gb |Cd |Ef |Ga |bC |dE |fG |aC |bE |dG |fC |aE ||

Notice the crazy reed placement in the high octave. I never felt
comfortable with that setup. Both #365 harps are in a drawer,
not used.

I had a Hohner #365-SBS Steve Baker Marine Band extended range
diatonic harp, about 10 years ago. Production of the SBS-MB was
ended a few years after that. The tone was excellent, wood comb.

It was a 14-hole standard Richter system reed placement, with an
extra octave below the standard 10-hole blues harp. Key of C.

The extra octave was the same reed placement as the 1st three holes
of a 10-hole Richter system blues harp, an octave lower:

||Cd |Eg |Gb |Cd |Eg |Gb |Cd |Ef |Ga |bC |dE |fG |aC |bE ||

(Large letters are exhale reeds; small letters are inhale reeds)

I imagine that it would be an excellent harp for blues players. The first
(lowest pitch) 3 holes were bendable, same as the next three holes.

It sat in a drawer for a few years, then I traded it for another harp.

The only other extended range harps I have are slide chromatics
(14-, 16-holes) and the extended range Hohner bass harp.

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Re: Extended diatonic models. Who here uses them? (More than 10 holes)
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2023, 01:35:39 PM »
I have a 365 C, a 364 in C, other in D, and a solo tuning 364 (actually it's a vintage Marine Band Soloist)
I'm curious about Lucky 13 (Powerdraw tuning), but I never tried yet.

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Re: Extended diatonic models. Who here uses them? (More than 10 holes)
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2023, 12:11:01 AM »
a solo tuning 364 (actually it's a vintage Marine Band Soloist)
I recently refurbished one of those, smaller than the regular 364. Cool harp.

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Re: Extended diatonic models. Who here uses them? (More than 10 holes)
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2023, 10:29:13 PM »
I’ve been practicing every now and then with a Lucky 13 in Dimi.
There’re some inconsistencies in the setting from the get go that I wasn’t able to polish. I liked the tuning a lot. For Klezmer and tunes in minor keys (harmonic minor specially) it sounds great.

I got today my latest custom harp from Andre Coelho, a Marine Band 365 SBS tuned to Dimi. Is the highest one, starting in A (same as the Lucky 13 actually).

I’m just starting to  experiment with this beauty. Will come back with my initial thoughts soon.

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Re: Extended diatonic models. Who here uses them? (More than 10 holes)
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2023, 10:31:32 AM »
I have an SBS in A that I seldom play.  You’ve got me thinking I can tune it to Dimi in hopes it doesn’t just sit in a drawer.  I have never tried Dimi so not sure I’ll like it.

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