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GENERAL CHROMATIC DISCUSSION / Re: Interpretation
« Last post by BigDogDaddyD on October 19, 2021, 05:47:10 PM »
Rounded mouthpiece. A-L-L the trapezoids are cheap, crap.  (don't say I didn't warn ya ;D)

And now I'm looking at my Hohner Meisterklasse trapezoidal mouthpiece and feeling all depressed.  Maybe I can take a file and make it round.   
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GENERAL CHROMATIC DISCUSSION / Re: Orchestra tuned
« Last post by brorat on October 19, 2021, 05:16:54 PM »
Will you guys please give Age a break😱😱??
He’s a good guy, and he needs some love!!
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GENERAL CHROMATIC DISCUSSION / Re: Orchestra tuned
« Last post by Grizzly on October 19, 2021, 03:43:35 PM »
Yeah, but you didn't grow longer legs, you grew a shorter bike. If you could reach the ground 30 years ago before you modified it, I'll eat my hat. ;D

Tom
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NoodleMeister / Re: Barbino
« Last post by A.J. Fedor on October 19, 2021, 02:18:44 PM »
What's wrong with the dog? He's supposed to be singing, no? :)
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GENERAL CHROMATIC DISCUSSION / Re: Jamming with Locals
« Last post by wolfman on October 19, 2021, 02:16:08 PM »
 Come on Neil,give us little more than a taste.

  Roman
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GENERAL CHROMATIC DISCUSSION / Re: Orchestra tuned
« Last post by A.J. Fedor on October 19, 2021, 02:13:29 PM »
Age's lowering his bike any further wouldn't gain him anything. His legs were short to begin with.

Well, the proof is in the pudding. Check the feet. :)

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GENERAL CHROMATIC DISCUSSION / Re: Orchestra tuned
« Last post by gvelasco on October 19, 2021, 12:03:42 PM »
I have a 14 hole Chrometta and a Violin Scale Tombo Band Chromatic. I know there are some "haters" of both of those here, but I really enjoy playing both of those. :-)
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NoodleMeister / Re: Barbino
« Last post by barbino on October 19, 2021, 12:03:31 PM »
This time I tryed to play with harmonica in one hand, smartphone in the other, and biscuits in both hands, to keep attention and love from my dog. The song is "Parlami d'amore Mariù" very romantic Italian old song.

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GENERAL CHROMATIC DISCUSSION / Re: Orchestra tuned
« Last post by gvelasco on October 19, 2021, 12:02:12 PM »
Duh!  Color me dumb!
I wouldn't be so hard on myself. There's clearly room for interpretation.
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...I guess I thought it was an altered tuning of the reeds, but it turns out it's more like a different "section" of notes on the harp.  Is that somewhere in the ballpark?
Yes, but more people will understand if you say it's a different "tuning" or maybe even "layout." Tuning refers to how notes are assigned to holes and layout refers to how the reeds are arranged in the holes, if that makes any sense.
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In any case, if a 14-hole qualifies as an orchestra tuned instrument, then my Suzuki Sirius 56 (14-hole) qualifies.  Since I play that harmonica more than any of my others, I think that makes orchestra tuning my "go to" instrument. I must say I find it a bit confusing to consider adding a couple of holes at the bass end converts my harp to a different tuning!  It just feels like a regular harp in C with more notes at the bottom. Whatever, I'm all in for orchestra tuning if that's what I've stumbled upon that I happen to like!! ::)
Yes. Your Sirius 56 counts as an "orchestra tuned" harmonica, not because it has 14 holes, but because of the notes in those extra notes on the bottom. Orchestra tuning really refers to your harmonica having the same compass, or range of notes, as a violin. This allows you to play parts written for a violin. The compass (range of notes) of a "standard" 12 hole chromatic harmonica in C is from middle C to D four octaves higher and skips over the highest C#. The compass of a violin is from G below middle C to about E four octaves higher and obviously doesn't skip the C#. So, a standard 12 hole chromatic cannot play the lowest notes that a violin can. Your Sirius 56 goes from the G below middle C to the D four octaves higher, so you can hit those lowest violin notes and *almost* reach the highest ones.

If you want to get REALLY PICKY about orchestra tuning, you can say that the harmonica shouldn't skip that high C# in favor of the D. The Violin Scale Tombo Band Chromatic (That's the actual name.) is a valveless chromatic in C that starts on a G like your Sirius 56, but doesn't skip the C#. Tombo calls this a "violin scale" harmonica. Some people might refer to this as a "true" orchestra tuning. Some people might roll their eyes at this definition. ;-)

The reason 14 holers qualify is that MOST 14 hole chromatics are orchestra tuned, but this is not a law. It is possible to tune a 14 holer starting on a C, or any other note, and add the two "extra" notes at the top. This could definitely make sense for "keyed" harmonicas in lower keys.

It's also possible to make an "orchestra tuned" 12 hole harmonica by just not having the highest notes, but again you'd be missing out on the highest notes that a violin can cover so...

Personally, I think the best definition of an orchestra tuned harmonica is one that has approximately the same compass as a violin so that it can, in theory, play music written for violin.
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GENERAL CHROMATIC DISCUSSION / Re: CX 12 fan club
« Last post by Gnarly He Man on October 19, 2021, 11:55:08 AM »
I recommend the CX 12, and I like it a lot.
However, it’s hard to beat the Suzuki line.
My main instrument is a 12 hole Sirius tuned to Orchestra Bebop with SCX reed plates, it suits me fine.
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